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Baling Wire

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How Accurate Is...
« on: July 17, 2007, 03:55:19 PM »
for calculating generator cut-in [x rpm yields y volts] by using the operating volts and rpm for a permanent magnet dc motor?  I have no experience in this matter.

I have read posts that calculate cut-in in this manner as if IT were a true 100% mathematical relationship?  I question this?  I believe that IT would give an estimate at best.  Is there no "slippage" or other unforseen inefficiencies?


What has been the "Experience" of the Board?  

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Flux

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Re: How Accurate Is...
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2007, 02:23:30 PM »
You are right, there are errors.


The figure usually quoted for a motor is the ON LOAD speed at a given voltage. What would be far more useful is the no load speed figure but there is no reason why the manufacturers name plate would give you such a thing.


The no load speed will be higher as there is little discrepancy between emf and applied voltage. The implication of this is that you need a higher speed than the nameplate rating to generate an emf equal to the rated terminal voltage.


With many motors with good speed regulation the difference may only be about 10% but if you happened to choose a motor with large speed droop on load you could be off by a lot more.


Typically I would increase the makers plate speed rating by about 15% and work from that as a first guide. If it looks hopeless reject the motor. If it seems reasonable then you would be justified in actually taking a voltage reading when driven at a known speed ( even hand cranking and timing). That will get you an exact figure to calculate cut in speed. You still need to know about its internal resistance to know how it will load with speed.


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Baling Wire

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Re: How Accurate Is...
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 09:33:52 AM »
Thanks Flux!

Are there some "classes/types" of PM DC motors that have less RPM differential between ON load and NO load?  
« Last Edit: July 18, 2007, 09:33:52 AM by Baling Wire »