Does anyone know if Valence has sold out to big oil yet? I know Mobil oil bought the rights to the Ovid NMH batteries right after they made the EV1 viable. Valence has their plant for the new lithium phosphate batteries in China. The new ones that look like a car battery are due to be released in March '08 and have 2.5x power density by volume and 3.8x power density increase by weight. The Ovid/Mobil buyout should have been prohibited until antitrust regulations.