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edy252

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A bit of confustion about blade angles
« on: July 14, 2004, 12:10:38 PM »
hi all...


i have seen many manuals for blade construction that say that the angle at the base should be between 8 and 10 degrees....i have a manual made by Hugh which gives the dimensions of the blade on 5 stations....at the base (drop = 50mm and width = 145mm)

so you get:





so which one should i choose?


thx in advance

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Flux

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Re: A bit of confustion about blade angles
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2004, 01:12:57 PM »
Don't get too worried about the angle at the root, it goes to extremes at very small radius.

If you get the angle right over the outer 2/3 of the blade, for the tip speed ratio you have chosen it will be ok.  To have a practical thickness of blade at the root you may well have to run out to whatever angle your thickness and chord will alow.

There is little power generated from the inner 1/3 of the blade. Just choose a thickness to give adequate strength.

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finnsawyer

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Re: A bit of confustion about blade angles
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2004, 10:02:20 AM »
So you throw away about 10% of the energy.  Hmm.  Actually EDY,  a decent airfoil can provide substantial lift over a range of attack angles (the angle between the apparent wind and the blade; usually good to 12 degrees).  Furthermore the lift coefficient increases with attack angle.  Lift or power out also depends on the apparent wind speed which decreases toward the hub, and on the blade width.  So there are a number of design parameters that can be fiddled with.  Hence different blade angles for different designs.  In my opinion it's not necessary, for instance, for the blade to get wider toward the root.  One could use a constant width blade and increase the attack angle toward the root, but the twist in the blade might become severe (around 70 degrees?) requiring a thick piece of material.
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DanOpto

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Re: A bit of confustion about blade angles
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2004, 02:17:15 PM »

To solve for the steep angles at the root of the blades look at the various

airfoils for wind generators



Look at the thick airfoils used at the root of wind generators.


They are fat with strength and have very thick sections.


This allows you to have a steep root angle with strength



Airfoils can be found at http://www.risoe.dk/vea/profcat/reg_form.asp



http://www.nasg.com/afdb/index-e.phtml



Interesting reading about stall regulated blades  http://aerodyn.org/Rotors/wturbine.html



 















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