gizmo, you made my day! I'm feel if I passed something off to just one person, then I've done what I set out to do on this board. These motors are $$ new but, like in your case, you were just going to sh*t can that machine. Thats all I'm trying to say with my posts is, they are out there just waiting to be found. Just read Hugh's workshop book, he states they can be found. Well now you know and maybe a few more but, lets just try to collect up these motors quietly for our wind projects and not drive up the prices. cheers!!