"Space wind" or something like that

[amiklic1]

I am looking for an article posted before about some kind of antenna generator. It was mentioned something as "5 kw from ....", about catching some space radiant energy.... Is that post deleted, or I just cannot find it. If someone know where it is, please answer.

[Flux]

I think the idea was to charge a capacitor from static electricity and use a spark gap to transfer it to a battery.

I don't think there is serious energy available, but somewhere I read of an amateur radio enthusiast charging accumulators in the valve radio days.

If you look for static electricity rather than space radiant energy you might find it.

Flux

[clflyguy]

Not sure about the post, but the radiant energy circuit you are looking for can be found at www.nuenergy.org/images/jpg/perreault modern radiant energy circuit.jpg

  Get ready to buy several hundred feet of wire!

[stop4stuff]

www.nuenergy.org/images/jpg/perreault modern radiant energy circuit.jpg didn't work for me... google found this tho

http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/radiant_energy_diatribe.htm

theory, method & an faq of sorts

[Flux]

Thanks for making the link work.

I can't help thinking that there is confusion between kV and KW.

I have no doubt that you can reach many kV but the kW figures are dreams I suspect.

If you try it in a lightning storm you may get kW and wish you didn't.

Flux

[makenzie71]

They addressed this on mythbusters...and Tesla proved it in the 1800's.  It works and it's a viable source of energy.  It's simply too expensive to produce in comparison to how much power you get.  In jr high we charged an AA battery like this with a 200ft wire...only took 3 days.

[Ungrounded Lightning Rod]

Don't believe that stuff about "electret effect".  With a cylindrical conductor (the "shield") around the alleged "electret" (in the dilectric) the charge on the conductor creates the entire external field, regargless of the charge WITHIN the conductor.

Any amplification from "electrets" would have to come from something located OUTSIDE the collector cable.  (And fields from electrets would quickly be canceled in a foggy or rainy environment by their selective attraction of charged raindrops which would coat them until their net charge at the surface was neutral.)

The increase in current, if any, compared to a simple wire comes from the larger diameter of the outer conductor of the shielded wire.

If you ground the inner conductor the dilectric also provides a large capacitance to help store charge from one discharge spike to another.

= = = =

You can use a trapped field to charge droplets, then the force of the wind to drive them to a similarly-charged collector.  But the charged element providing the field will leak charge to other droplets and need constant refreshment.

[tecker]

 I 'm going to try this  I snatched a mess of rg59 from a building and I 'm going to checkit out 400 ' and ten ground rods and some microwave parts I'll let you know .I 've got a bedini circuit I 'll find it and post it.

[veewee77]

http://www.nuenergy.org/images/jpg/perreault_modern_radiant_energy_circuit.jpg

[ULR]

Cut the outer insulation of the RG59 so the shield is exposed.

[DanB]

we dont usually allow posts about this sort of stuff here.. but since it was started and theres been a few good comments we'll leave it for now.  (unless another editor feels differently which would be fine).  It's not a useful form of energy in my opinion.  Theres simply not much energy there.

[DingBat]

Isn't this basically a crystal radio setup, expect instead of a speaker you have a  diode and battery?

-- DingBat

[tecker]

 Thanks to the genereous nature of the editors the thread is still open to comments

so I'll say the ion  valve in it's basic design is an aluminum cylinder ( anode )

and a tungsten wire (cathode) . Bedini inserts scrs to switch . I 'll not push the limit of the editor indulgence any more. They do have a point as to the slated usefulness  of such a device and it has some pointed hazards also .I can atest to some heavy hits off antennas cb, hamm, and directv.

[tecker]

I think what the contention is and where the similar efects are mutual is that the frequency bands ride on the aeither . And the frenquency of ion transferance is in the same range but very large bandwidth.

[wooferhound]

Here is a post I made that contains many links to discussions on this board about how to get electricity from long wire runs.

http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2005/4/16/16939/3187

[Nothing40]

Years ago I went on a "ride along" with a neighbor,who worked at Pacific Power and Light..We went to St.Helens up in the middle of the forrest to replace a HV H-frame tower..The lines were turned off by the time we got there,and the first thing they did was dig a shallow hole,and drive a ground point into the dirt (it looked like a giant corkscrew,a couple feet long.) and ran 3 heavy jumper cables up to the lines.I asked him why they did that,and he said one major reason was because long runs of wire can build up a dangerous charge all on thier own..There was some minor arcing when they connected a couple of them,like a big static charge.