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spacejunk

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F&P smartdrive info needed
« on: December 16, 2008, 01:40:12 PM »
Hello all,

I'm looking at replacing my burnt out Futurenergy FE1048 PMA with a dual rotor Smartdrive setup.

To Access viability, I need RPM vs Open Circuit Voltage info for the 80 and 100 series.

Just for the Standard configuration as I can calculate the values I'll get after its re-configured.

Cant seem to find this anywhere on the WWWEb , not even at eccoinovation .

Anyone got some date?

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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 06:49:53 AM »
When I get home I should have the open voltage for the 80 and 100.
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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 12:45:17 PM »
Here's a fieldlines story with the "backshed" address in the first post.


http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2004/7/11/164138/703


"the back shed" is an Aussie web-site, I recall they do a lot of work with the different F&P's, as I got the impression they are common and cheap there.

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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 01:55:46 PM »
They are made here in New Zealand so they filter across the ditch in large quantities to our poorer neighbours :-)


Lots of combinations available as there are several models to choose from. The favourite way to use them here is run them ex-washing machine where they run at about 150-200 volts out into a hefty switch mode power supply, most of which are rated from 90-250 volts input and stabilised output to charge a battery bank.


Saves a lot of hassle rewiring and if you mess one up its easier to just wack up another one.

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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 03:58:58 PM »
Michael Lawley in NZ has got it all figured out and you can download a pretty good introduction, with some data at


http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/pdf/What%20is%20a%20Smart%20Drive.pdf

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spacejunk

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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 07:14:39 AM »
Very Interesting Fracker,

Thort about doing the same thing manytimes myself.

But a Switch mode power supply is  output voltage regulated and Over current limited.

Thus nthe PSU would try to maintain the Battery voltage, thus overloading the Input source, ie the F&P. And then there is the issue of Over-voltage protection.


I figured I'd need a PSU that was Input voltage regulated to overcome the problem.

So what make /model of PSU did you use?

Wouldnt a "hefty" PSU overload the wind turbine?

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spacejunk

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Re: F&P smartdrive info needed
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 07:33:53 AM »
Well..Looks like I had better do my own measurements then.

And the hub diameter of the Futurenergy blade set is smaller than the OD of the Smartdrive. This will be a problem.

A bit of info:

FE use the blade set made by Multi-wing (europe, +Autralian Distributor)

Multiwing informed me that Futurenergy are not supplying UV rated blades.

UV rated blades are grey in color. FE use the black blades that are not UV protected!


Also, quotes from Multiwing Australia for 6,8 & 10 position hubs and additional blades were outragous. Too high to consider, even before the "crash"


Now I read an old Back-shed post re Seely AirConditioner PM motors. I assume they fit them to the Inverter type AC's. Hmm.. I might contact an importer of generic chinese AC's and try to salvage a motor from an "inverter type" AC..if suitable.


I've got a good set of blades but no Alternator to spin.


Cheers All!

« Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 07:33:53 AM by spacejunk »