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lavanwam

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anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« on: September 09, 2010, 09:13:57 PM »
I have a large outdoor wood furnace I use to heat me house, Just wondering if there was a place to buy a closed system turbine generator I could buy to produce my power needs.

I produce a large amount of 180 degree F water that I thought could run a turbine/generator if it had a closed system and used another liquid that boiled at l50 or so.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 10:15:06 AM »
There was someone who made a three stage stirling engine to power a house, but it's tough because there isn't much useful energy in water between 180 F and 80 F.

If you don't have a phase change the machine has to be fairly large to extract much energy and convert it to electricity.

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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 01:36:14 PM »
Thanks for the response.

I was figuring that the temp difference for me in the winter would avg 20 F to the 180 F
In the summer would be 55 F to 180 F
Size is not the important to me, it is finding something that will help with the electric demand.

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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 12:43:42 PM »
https://matteranenergy.us/video2.html   These people have developed a low temperature modified Rankine cycle that works in your range of temperatures.

It sounds like an ammonia refrigerator used to make electricity. They use mild heat to boil a refrigerant inside a closed system, with one-way check valves that use batch mode processing to eliminate the need for a mechanical pump on the condensor side.

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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 06:47:23 AM »
just use the draft from the intake to the firebox to spin a small automotive type fan based genny...
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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 10:36:13 PM »
Thermocouples may work. I remember something from the past about whether boys in the ocean being powered by some type of radioactive material decaying producing heat than using thermocouples to produce electricity. As I recall the reactor thermocouple assembly was about the size of a 55 gallon drum. I don't know how much power you can get out of thermocouples but it may be worth looking into.
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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 01:51:25 AM »
really nice thought . . . !!!
how much temperature would be perfect ???
the temp lavanwam  is asking i think is enough to produce electricity for his single machine .

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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 08:02:28 AM »
this may sound stupid, but how much of the electricity your using is to move the heat/cool around in the first place?
Most of what I know about the alternative enrgy stuff (for lack of a better word) is that at the point you're doing more than just moving heat or cool around it really takes a hit in converting to electricity.
Lights?, washing machines?  vis a vis airconditioning/ furnace?
It migt pay to take a look at it- maybe a stirling fan or pump?

just a thought.
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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 12:50:49 AM »
steam ???
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Re: anyone tried producing electricity from an outdoor wood furnace?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 11:06:55 AM »
Maybe a down draft gasifier running a small gas engine turning a PMA.
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