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prasadbodas2000

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Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« on: October 12, 2010, 12:24:58 AM »

An year or so ago I had constructed a windmill alternator - dual rotor with 12 on each N35 grade 50x25x12 mm sized NdFeB magnets, 9 coils, 65 turns of 15 gauge wire, 3 phase. This was entirely out of enthusiasm about DYI windmill. Thanks to this forum/board for valuable source of information and examples.

However I could not find a suitable wind site hence decided to adapt the generator as a pedgen. My college time bicycle was all rusted and still there with its frame / chasis in good condition, so I decided to use it and convert into a pedgen. This is how it has come out.



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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 08:11:36 AM »
Looks good!  I'm curious how many watts you can get out of it.  I've heard humans are good for 100 to 200 W sustained.
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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 12:36:10 AM »
that is right - pushing more than 100 watts sustained is not feasible (at least for me :) )
I can connect up upto 4 numbers 12V x 50 Watt automobile headlamps (typically used on motorbikes) and drive with generally ok efforts...
my next steps on this are to setup a PWM circuit so that I pedal the generator at different speeds and get fairly fixed voltage
firstly it will be a knob control NE555 based simple PWM where the duty cycle will be manually set and at various duty cycles I will record how the RPM varies to get same current into the lamps.

secondly I aim to do some kind of auto-control of duty cycle to get constant voltage at the lamp terminals

I will need help on this from the various experts and specialists in the field of elecronics on this board.

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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 05:05:20 AM »
Nice work, I agree 100 watts is achievable over some time, maybe 15 minutes.
This one I made from a electric bike hub would generate 300 watts but was very difficult to pedal.




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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2010, 07:16:13 PM »
This was my excercise bike , before i took off the alternator at the top of the picture.
and before i added coils to the lower alt.

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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 01:49:38 AM »
Hi Willib, cool machine it is...
also it has gear drive, meaning the pedaler person gets some advantage, but yes still an average human being can not do more than 100 Watts sustained.....

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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 07:57:14 AM »
Holy $#?! Willib, that looks like a monstrous powerful alternator.
How many watts is it rated for and how many magnets went into it?
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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 09:06:30 AM »

An year or so ago I had constructed a windmill alternator - dual rotor with 12 on each N35 grade 50x25x12 mm sized NdFeB magnets, 9 coils, 65 turns of 15 gauge wire, 3 phase. This was entirely out of enthusiasm about DYI windmill. Thanks to this forum/board for valuable source of information and examples.

However I could not find a suitable wind site hence decided to adapt the generator as a pedgen. My college time bicycle was all rusted and still there with its frame / chasis in good condition, so I decided to use it and convert into a pedgen. This is how it has come out.

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Nice ....I prefer metallic blue ...
The ideal would be to have it geared so pedaling at a nice 60 rpm crank speed and hooked
up to a 12 volt battery.....1 phase 25 watts, 2 phase 50 watts, 3 phase 75 watts or something
similar.
In my case 3phases on a EMC conversion is just right with a ratio of about 1:8 pedaling at 60 rpm pedals
is 5 mph on the speedometer is easy just pedaling a little faster to 6mph is making a little over 50 watts
and I don't have it set up too good for 7 mph nor am I in condition ,it slips and very hard to pedal for more than a minute.
5mph. is the true speed of the wheel , were it to be touching the ground.
Charging a battery is a better way to make use of a pedgen
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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 01:59:11 AM »
Holy $#?! Willib, that looks like a monstrous powerful alternator.
How many watts is it rated for and how many magnets went into it?
the alt closest to the sprocket has a total of  48 neos on it.
They are 7/8 " diameter by 1 inch long.
I just acquired a boatload of new wire , so i will find out how much power it puts out.
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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 06:56:05 AM »
those alloy wheel can do the flywheel job too?

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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 09:58:28 AM »
This one I made from a electric bike hub would generate 300 watts but was very difficult to pedal.

 
I noticied it was multispeed....it was difficult to pedal, even in a low gear?

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Re: Pedgen from old scrapped bicycle frame
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2010, 03:23:12 AM »
here is a link to a vid I made taking a hub motor apart and showing why they are not that good for generators and why they are so hard to turn even when you are not producing energy. The problem is two sets of gears inside that you are loosing energy to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fomo7hfS-o
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