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waseem

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Is this the correct way to charge
« on: March 18, 2011, 09:09:14 AM »

I need 12-volt
 But the shipping is on the 6-volt
 How to charge the 6 volt and the same time out 12 volts

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 09:34:03 AM »
Coffee hasn't kicked in yet... but anyway, here's the picture:

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 09:55:22 AM »
Coffee hasn't kicked in yet... but anyway, here's the picture:


Huh?

I am still in pre coffee mode, too but that just doesn't look right? Maybe I am missing something like a switch that is not obvious?

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 10:06:09 AM »
i dont thing it is good,you are actually shorting the batteries.

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 10:23:22 AM »
Can NOT do that.

Both batteries are shorted.

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 10:29:35 AM »
Can NOT do that.

Both batteries are shorted.

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Yeah, and it won't take more than a millisecond to obtain proof once someone tries it.

Poof.

Aww, golly that was spectacularly vigorous.


I agree,  after my coffee that it is very bad to try this.


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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 10:56:09 AM »
You can't charge at 6V and draw power at 12V at the same time.  You can wire the batteries in parallel for 6V or series for 12, but not at the same time.

The only way to make this work would be to put the batteries in parallel to charge, then disconnect from the mill, then put them in series to run the inverter.  That could be done with big switches, but they would need some interlocks or custom design to avoid shorting out the batteries.  This might be practical in special situations. An example close to my heart would be charging the battery (for radio and instruments) on a sailplane all week, then flying it on the weekend.

If you need to draw power while charging, you could use a boost mode switching regulator to increase the 6V mill output to ~14V for charging.  Look up the LT1070 data sheet/application note for lots of examples.

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 02:57:12 PM »
This is a hopeless situation, the best you can do is connect the batteries in series for 12v and charge on 6 v unit at a time. You will need to constantly swap them over to keep an even state of charge and you will, need to monitor the state of charge to keep them in track. You can do the switching with relays but it is not simple, as the basic scheme is flawed you may be just as well off doing the switching manually until you get fed up and realise the whole thing is futile.

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Re: Is this the correct way to charge
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 03:26:59 PM »
A big thanks to Mr. \  kevbo  and Mr. \Flux
 Thanks for the clarification
 Thank you for your patience
 Thank you for your responses
 Thanks for the help
 Thanks for the tips
 I wish success to you :-* :-* :-*