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Why did you get involved in alternative energy?

Just for fun
15 (53.6%)
to save money
2 (7.1%)
I had no electricity where I live
9 (32.1%)
Beacause I THOUGHT I would save money
1 (3.6%)
I don't really know
1 (3.6%)

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Harold in CR

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2016, 11:33:06 AM »

 I'm with Johann.  ;D

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2016, 01:22:14 PM »
for fun and back up power .  also learning and shtf.

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2016, 02:05:24 AM »
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Or....
unstable power


I think my main answer is for fun/challenge, but I guess part of the reason I later on went back and put in batteries was the occasional outage that we seemed to have around here.
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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2018, 10:48:26 PM »
Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016

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There needs to be a selection for "Learning or Education"

I never realized how much this is needed, for basic education.

You don't see that as you do when a good new member gets way advanced feedback. I realized this after we lost images and broken links.

We lost that framework the information is not there for a newbie. Were on a level so far over there heads they just give up.

JW

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2018, 04:01:44 AM »
I did not fill this Poll in, as the possible answers were far to flippant/light weight.

Folk across the world would have contributed to this important POLL subject, Alternative Energy, if it was better thought out.

On many World wide Forums I see people who are studying RE etc, and they have a overcomplicated search Monkey Polls, which have silly questions that are obviously biased towards a particular outcome. But at least they are trying.

Come on Fieldlines, do a real POLL survey.

More Suggested Questions for the POLL,

1.     RE, because I had a philosophy of trying to save this Planet for my children's children.

2.     RE, Making  a lot of my own stuff, As a cost effective solution for power generation in todays world.

3.    The main utility Grid has become so unreliable with more than 20 outages, minutes to days, each year.

4.    Education, to pass on, open information to the next generation. 


Everything is possible, just give me time.

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2018, 05:43:20 AM »
Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016

Quote from: Bruce S
There needs to be a selection for "Learning or Education"

I never realized how much this is needed, for basic education.

You don't see that as you do when a good new member gets way advanced feedback. I realized this after we lost images and broken links.

We lost that framework the information is not there for a newbie. Were on a level so far over there heads they just give up.

JW

The thing with catering to newbs with this sort of thing is it is very difficult to explain nearly anything if they don't have some basic knowledge themselves and many seem not to.
Looking at the replies here, a lot of people had the curiosity from a kid and went from there. I think it's a bit like a little girl watching her mother put on makeup.  A 10 yo inherently knows things a bloke ( straight anyway) just has no clue about.

 I was like someone else mentioned, pulling toys apart to rebuild them or get and motors and lights etc. I understood an electrical circuit before I went to school. As a teenageer, I was the go to for every guy that got their first ( or 15th) car and wanted to add something electrical. Stereo, graphic equaliser, driving lights, CB radio, alarm etc.  Lots of guys could rebuild and engine in a weekend but knowing what red and black wires were, Nup! From there you just progress.

For people that don't have this sort of background to work from, I think nearly everything is over their heads. If they just decide one day they want to do their own solar setup or save money by going off grid, it's a hell of a job to start at step 1 and doing so and showing the learning curve will probably scare them off anyway.

That said, maybe people could contribute some articles of various things they are proficient in.  Still might be hard as everything you say might need to be explained and how do you do that? Have a thread that grows endlessly and the info gets buried or people start a new thread specifically?

I don't know but if I can contribute something, not that I know beans, I'd be glad to help.

I'll say one thing that I think has improved this site immensely over the latter period I have been here.
The greenwashing has stopped.  When I first got here it was the typical alternative energy site. All about saving the world and rammed down your throat every 5 Min.
 Not everyone is into that or gives a damn but the fact they are doing it is what the environmentalists want anyway.  I'm over all the Co2, gloBULL warming crap so if things stay as they are where it's on the technical more than there is something wrong with you is you don't worship the green religion, I think it will make for a much better place.

If you want to use the tech to save the planet, great. If I don't have that motivation,  don't try and guilt trip and force your religion on me and I won't tear apart your beliefs.  :0)



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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2018, 06:12:52 AM »
I guess it's where I live - and due to having some backup power I at least kept the freezers going for 4 days when the power went out after a 7.1 quake that broke the surface only 2km away.

11038-0

Concrete roof tiles are not a good idea!!


According to the history in GoogleEarth, the house (and all the surrounding land) moved about 4m north-east during those 45 seconds.
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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2018, 10:40:39 AM »
I did not fill this Poll in, as the possible answers were far to flippant/light weight.

Come on Fieldlines, do a real POLL survey.

More Suggested Questions for the POLL,

1.     RE, because I had a philosophy of trying to save this Planet for my children's children.

2.     RE, Making  a lot of my own stuff, As a cost effective solution for power generation in todays world.

3.    The main utility Grid has become so unreliable with more than 20 outages, minutes to days, each year.

4.    Education, to pass on, open information to the next generation.

ClockmanFRA;
This poll was taken way way back in 2014.
If the polling part of the forum is working ,,, it might be good to start a new one?
See where and how things have changed in the past 3+ years :)

Cheers
Bruce S
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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2018, 11:48:16 AM »
Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016

Quote from: Bruce S
There needs to be a selection for "Learning or Education"

I never realized how much this is needed, for basic education.

You don't see that as you do when a good new member gets way advanced feedback. I realized this after we lost images and broken links.

We lost that framework the information is not there for a newbie. Were on a level so far over there heads they just give up.

JW

The thing with catering to newbs with this sort of thing is it is very difficult to explain nearly anything if they don't have some basic knowledge themselves and many seem not to.

I don't know but if I can contribute something, not that I know beans, I'd be glad to help.
George65;
Way way back, when I first found this forum, they used to expect people to have a modicum of knowledge before they started asking questions.
IF you started posting and had no clue of what you were talking about or worse starting spouting OU; The polite ones :), would simply ask you to read up on one of the sections first.

When the forum was updated to this style, they added a FAQ section, and Admins/Moderators would ask new member to go there to read the section they were trying to ask questions about. Alas;;:: it has muddled into way too many people asking questions in the FAQ section. In hindsight , maybe once the FAQ had just enough in it to be helpful it should've been locked into read-only?

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Bruce S
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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2018, 04:54:15 PM »
I'm one of "those folks" (not the only one here, for sure!) that keeps being told "You can't do that!" by "other people" in reaction to conversations of exploration with many who wouldn't dare think "outside the box".

Also, and among many other things, I used to work as an Instrument and Controls tech for local power co. at their 1,000 MW generating plant; then went elsewhere for a while, retired, built retirement home on 40 AC 1/2 mile away from grid; then was told by same utility that it is U. S.$12.50 per foot for the "privilege" to hook-up.  No money ahead - probably "just even"; but, good "learning", and very satisfying  to be "independent" (most of the time  -  until I need to fix something at 03:15 -30 F winter temperature, and wind blowing fiercely).

Regards,   JLB

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2018, 10:11:15 AM »
I'm one of "those folks" (not the only one here, for sure!) that keeps being told "You can't do that!" by "other people" in reaction to conversations of exploration with many who wouldn't dare think "outside the box".

Regards,   JLB
Sometimes it's the way a post or request for information is posted. I'm not a student of any language , but I've seen posts where a member who is asking for help should've written it out had someone else read it, correct for grammar then post.
AND not feel offended when other forum members ask for more/better more detailed information.

This forum was partly based on the very idea of thinking outside the box.

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2018, 12:34:00 AM »
     Re: Thinking outside the box.  I became interested in wind power during the energy crisis of the 1970's after I lost my position at Michigan Tech.  Being an engineer, I wanted to know how a windmill worked (all of the horizontal axis types).  Eventually, I found this site.  Ten years ago I posted my theory for their operation in a post entitled "The Betz Limit - Again".  It was promptly ignored.  So much for thinking outside the box.  Better luck next time.  8)     

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2018, 09:36:20 AM »
Finnsawyer:

I've not been here for 10 years: I'm interested: Where can I see your work?

Thanks,   JLB

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
I did not fill this Poll in, as the possible answers were far to flippant/light weight.

Come on Fieldlines, do a real POLL survey.

More Suggested Questions for the POLL,

1.     RE, because I had a philosophy of trying to save this Planet for my children's children.

2.     RE, Making  a lot of my own stuff, As a cost effective solution for power generation in todays world.

3.    The main utility Grid has become so unreliable with more than 20 outages, minutes to days, each year.

4.    Education, to pass on, open information to the next generation.

ClockmanFRA;
This poll was taken way way back in 2014.
If the polling part of the forum is working ,,, it might be good to start a new one?
See where and how things have changed in the past 3+ years :)

Cheers
Bruce S

Agree, I suggest someone take the initiative to start a new poll, perhaps (if possible) with the ability for respondents to choose more than one reason, and including a wider array of choices reflective of the variety of reasons that folks get involved.  I guess I'll take a look at doing this in the next few days, if nobody else steps up.

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2018, 12:13:56 AM »
     Note to JLB.  You should be able to find the post.  Beyond that, see if you can find my diaries.  If you're interested in applying the theory, see if you can use it to figure how a board like a one by six or two by eight gets lift.  It's important.  :)

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2018, 04:07:01 PM »
     Note to JLB.  You should be able to find the post.  Beyond that, see if you can find my diaries.  If you're interested in applying the theory, see if you can use it to figure how a board like a one by six or two by eight gets lift.  It's important.  :)

The post you had mentioned seems to be here:

https://www.fieldlines.com/index.php/topic,129290.0.html

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2018, 01:14:37 PM »
jlsoaz,

Thanks much for the link!

Regards, JLB

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2018, 10:49:27 PM »
jlsoaz,

Thanks much for the link!

Regards, JLB

hi JLB, you're welcome, hope it proves useful.

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Re: Why did you get involved in alternative energy?
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2018, 12:19:24 AM »
     The link works.  Reply 9 is where the action lives, although the stuff before it is helpful.  It is surprising that so much of the incident air needs to flow through the rotor, although nature does act to keep the air moving.  As I implied, it should be possible  to use the theory to figure out how those old water pumpers worked.  Since that's half the universe, it has to be important.  How does a board get lift?  It needs to be considered before people forget about them.  8)