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fukenfooser

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Inverter troubleshooting
« on: October 17, 2005, 06:31:11 PM »
I have an Inverter

 500watt continuous 800 watt surge

 "Power-To_Go" #PC500HS.

I got it from girlfriends brother, He overloaded it I'm sure.

Anybody out there know how to trouble shoot one?

Any responces are very helpfull!

Thanks to all the people on this board, it's the BEST place for dy stuff!

 
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ghurd

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 01:21:29 PM »
If it more than just the fuses, don't bother.

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2005, 02:26:57 PM »
I may know but you may are too far from me, I am in Dallas, Texas.


If it is a MSW it is simple and it not be worth the effort to repair it.


Nando

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fukenfooser

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2005, 08:08:50 PM »
Nando-               (I love some of your posts, There are GREAT)!!


"If it is a MSW it is simple"

What do you mean by that? Modified Sine Wave maybe?


If thats what you meant, YES it is.

I know they have gotten a lot cheaper than they used to be but they are still $$

And I would love to save as much as I can when I can!

I have a couple of smaller ones,(PC300HS same brand as 500 and a "Motor Trend" 400/800)  a silent 75watt lighter plug in one and even got one with the 5"LCD (G2G) screen I picked up a couple months ago.

But if it's an easy, (check this or that), besides the fuses, it would be worth it.

But thanks for replying.


PS:  Nando-     "Presently designed unit you have that have just 6.5 volts can be converted to generate 12 Volts to charge the battery -- what is your electronic experience -- to build circuits ?.


I can help you with the circuit.


Connect directly with me at nadno37-at-comcast-dot-net"


I copied this from a post about trolling motors if I remember right.

I can and have built circuits, (most from kits) but have built from schematics.

I have a couple of questions for you about charge controllers and the like.

Thanks for the great posts either way!!


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Nando

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 10:26:17 PM »
CHECK my email, it is nando37


The problem to suggest what to test, makes it very difficult, if we do not have a topography of the board to give you a road test sequence.


Also, the need to have and to understand a lot of electronics to be able to solve certain conditions that have to be recognized as a result of a measurement or a signal injection or even the presence of a voltage range.


Basically, it is a DC/DC transformer at high frequency, let's say 30 to 50 KHz and the transformer has, normally two outputs, one Positive, and one Negative up to the peak voltage of the 60 or 50 Hz value plus a switch to present to the output either the positive or the negative voltages and some additional circuit to cut off the output pulses for a certain time of the MSW wave form, basically the pulses are around 90 degrees wide, for each pulse, and the rest of the time the additional circuit cuts the output for, about 90 degrees between each alternating polarity pulses.


The high frequency transformer has the output with a full wave rectifier with transformer center, so this way a positive and a negative voltages are generated, as indicated previously, to present a continuous voltage level with a very small transformer and high power output.


Some converters have a single output winding that is floating and the additional circuitry grounds alternating polarities to generate the MSW wave form.


Some of the DC/AC converters have some excellent circuit protection,


Regards


Nando

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 07:08:36 AM »
My inverter once got fried. I opened it and checked the fuses, they were OK. Then I looked up in the internet how to check on the FETS, 2 of the 8 were shot. So I purchased new ones and changed them. That was 8 months ago and my inverter is working perfectly.

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 07:36:10 AM »
If you replace the bank of $3 each plus S+H mosfets that have the tops blown off,

then power it back up and have the mosfets blow again...

You already lost money.


Sam's Club had those for $24.

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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 08:38:06 AM »
Thanks again to all that reply!


I might be wrong but,

Wouldn't the FET's be the same as the ones in a PC power supply?

I have not looked at any #'s yet but I think they would be and I have many psu's to play with.

I have been collecting old PC's and have many parts saved.

I have a square stepper with only 4 wires I'm trying to figure out but the post here was a bit low on info and mostly covered the 6 wire version.


thanks


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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2005, 07:54:17 AM »
I would NOT think they are the same fets. I have maybe 100 different fet numbers, but always have to order something else.

Changing the fets still doesn't change what made them blow in the first place.


The 4 wire stepper...

It's probably 2 seperate coils, no center taps, and just needs 2 bridges.


Or it could be a 3 phase, wired star, with the common also having a wire, but this is kind of rare.

These often do not cog, because they don't have any magnets, and without magnets they don't make any power.


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Re: Inverter troubleshooting
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 01:17:37 PM »
Usually the FETs in a small inverter are only 1 or 2 amps at most. I have gotten some 10 amp FETs  from old monitors. I'm thinking about playing with a 400 watt inverter and seeing if I can raise output by using the beefier FETs. Anyone ever tried this?
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