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my blades
« on: May 14, 2006, 08:44:37 AM »
http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/2965/IM002082.JPG 57kb

http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/2965/Video_2.avi 800kb


i took them out for a spin today , was it ever windy !!

i didnt really get to test them that well, because i have to tighten the attachment

 when a strong gust came along , the wind would pull the trailing edge into the wind..

but they spun really fast  after every adjustment.

as you can see i have five sections on and four to go.

 it looks at this point like they are going to be  8' dia. , or thereabouts

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Re: my blades
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2006, 02:50:14 AM »
oh i sanded them too , the trailing edge got a little banged up when my test bed there fell over , but they survived
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Re: my blades
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2006, 09:28:26 AM »
i'm also doing some fan testing , this is the data

the fan is a 12" dia three speed model from smc corp


  1. rpm on low
  2. rpm on medium
  3. 6 rpm on high

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Re: my blades
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2006, 10:43:46 AM »
Each blade at this point weighs just  0.9 lbs

most of that is the bolt and nuts that hold it all together
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2006, 09:24:14 PM »
took them out today , it was almost as windy today but not quite as much.

this time only one blade was pivoting into the wind , which caused  a nasty wobble , the next time i go i will be better prepared ,

still no reliable rpm readings , i had two bad wires connecting the alt to the diodes , to the meter , ehh live and learn.

i had to turn the turbine out of the wind 90 degrees to get it to stop spinning .

next time i go i'm gonna take a video , the avi in the first post is of the blades powered by a fan.

on the alt , i can determine the rpm , by the open (almost) Voltage

i'm using a 1K resistor , after the diodes ,at home , so when i do get to test them everything will be the same

 
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Re: my blades
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2006, 12:38:48 AM »
willib,I looked at your avi. Download took several minutes.(Slow Dialup) These are test wings? Are they made of foam? Can not tell by the video, how long they are at this point? How do you get the avi link to come up in your post. Joe
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Re: my blades
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2006, 04:39:38 PM »
if you dont download it , all you get is static , and no video..

so i'm glad you downloaded it..


yes they are made of foam and they are around  60" dia so far


to get the avi in your posts  , you first have to upload it , then just select it as you would a photo , from your files ..

then strip off everything outside of the quotes , including the quotes..

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2006, 10:02:27 PM »
willib, you said that the over all diameter will be around 8 feet. Do you then test the rpm and design the genny. What do you cover the foam with? I finished my wood blades and am working on the hub now, hope to test next week to see how close I come to projected rpms. Joe
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Re: my blades
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2006, 10:32:31 PM »
yes that would be a good way to do it .

i've been trying to get a reliable rpm reading lately , but Murphys Law has prevented it till the next time , i'll be ready for him then.

this evening would have been perfect , but the blades were'nt ready

the next time i go out i will probably have six sections done and installed


"What do you cover the foam with?"


believe it or not , at the present time there is only box tape on there , the sections have  epoxy between  them , but holding the sections to each other is just tape

 when they are done i'm going to use glass and epoxy , or kevlar and epoxy or carbon fiber and epoxy havnt decided really


during the last two tests the tape held up so well that i'll probably use tape up untill they are ready for epoxy , and i might not even epoxy/glass ect. , the whole surface , i am thinking about using it just where it is needed..

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air screw in action
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2006, 06:55:04 PM »
this is a vid of the blades edge on

you can see why it is called an air screw

i've also  added the next section


http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/2965/Video_11.avi ~660Kb


they are now 70" in dia.

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Re: my blades
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2006, 07:34:37 PM »
That little alt is no match for these puppies , even with a fan pushing them , they still turn with all three phases of the alt shorted

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Re: air screw in action
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2006, 12:51:14 AM »
willib, I get an error message when I click on you link. Joe
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Re: air screw in action
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2006, 12:57:13 PM »
try it now
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285 RPM
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2006, 04:56:23 PM »
i took them out for another spin and Murphy didnt show up till after i got a good reading of 285 rpm  !!

yeah finally..

i estimate the wind was 13 to 15 mph

then it started raining , and my lousy knot tying the pole to the table gave out

no pictures sorry
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All in the family
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2006, 01:35:20 PM »
this is going to be a childish reply


a little participation goes a long way , wxyz participated , and i thank you ...

for the rest of you 121 viewers , i am sticking my tongue out at you , and blowing out air , kind of like Archie used to do on "All in the family"

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Re: All in the family
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2006, 07:53:16 PM »
You're right about one thing willib, it is childish. You had a similar comment in your other post on this project.


Doesn't the lack of response tell you something?

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Re: All in the family
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2006, 09:11:29 PM »
like??

no one cares?

i'd still like to see that pitch control mechinism of yours.
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Re: air screw in action
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2006, 01:55:33 AM »
The avi worked good this time. Yard work has kept me busy this week. First day I had to sit down and read some posts. I was reading about the Wright brothers, they said that it was the useless wing data that was available in their day that stopped flight. Keep posting your results, I get motivated by seeing what others are up to. Joe
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