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TomW

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Update...
« on: November 20, 2006, 07:05:12 PM »
Well, folks, the "Project From Hell" is completed.

For those who may not know what it is I am talking about You should check out my Diary from March of 2004:


http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2004/3/3/23120/58334


In deference to those with limited bandwidth I posted some photos over here:


http://www.anotherpower.com/gallery/album50


At the end of 2004 DanB was kind enough to give me a DanBilt [#20 he said]. I am happy to announce that, with the help of many, I have managed to see this project thru to completion in slightly less than 3 years time.


We now have 2 windplants here on the farm. A 2 meter Zubbly conversion at 30 feet and a 10 foot DanBilt at 60 feet. Both feeding 450 AH of Trojan 105's providing 24 VDC for the Outback 2524 we purchased last year. As a supplement to the 300 watts of solar we have had for several years they will be appreciated a lot.


Rebuilding that tower turned out to be a lot more work than expected. It became a bit of an international effort, with hands on help from several folks and discussion / brainstorming from folks on 3 continents.


I hesitate to list those who helped because I do not want to miss someone and appear unthankful.


The bottom line is we got into this project and after I got the first couple sections up I had some health problems and was restricted to terra firma by doctors so I was not supposed to climb anything higher than a step ladder. 60 foot stepladders seem rare so I was too stubborn to give up and too proud to ask for help. Some folks decided to help, unasked and I gladly accepted since they just showed up and said "What needs to be done?". That was JacquesM and Wolvenar.


Diary on that over here:


http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2004/9/27/14465/4589


Here is a partial listing of those who actually helped with hands on things here at the farm.


JacquesM was here on several occasions doing welding, construction and high steel work.


Johannes [friend of JacquesM] was here crawling around on steel and doing assembly on the tower.


Wolvenar also lent a hand during construction helping with initial grunt work, etc.


RonB stopped by with JacquesM I forget what he was doing but knowing Ron it was helpful, entertaining or both.


DanG stopped by for a weekend and helped get the catwalk supports installed.


I decided to build it in place from ground up rather than tilt it up after construction. In retrospect, I would tilt it up after rebuilding it on the ground. Hind sight is good.


After the last time JacquesM was here the tower was mostly complete only requiring a catwalk to be bolted on and some tweaks to the bracing.


Many others assisted with moral support, engineering advice and ideas. That list would include but not be limited to: DanB, Brucedownunder, wpowokal [Allan], BobN [R.I.P.], Zubbly, Whiskey, Pickster, ibedonc, and most of the regular posters on this useful site as well as many of the IRC folks. There is just no way I can remember everyone so if I forgot you, please understand it is simply memory issues and not intentional.


Several local folks, including my wife helped as ground support in the final stages of assembly after I got the OK to climb. I bought a good quality climbing harness so I could feel safe working at height. Other than hoisting the head to the top the install of the mill itself was not very difficult. standing on the catwalk the axle of the head is at chest height and makes assembly of tail and prop to the head quite easy to do.


I have also been involved with ibedonc developing some embedded Linux devices for the RE systems we both use. What that means is we are developing devices that use the USB port on either computers or other devices to control and monitor the system.


Currently we are using a Lynksys "Slug" which is a network storage device meant to act as a fileserver for a network. We have installed Linux on them and Don has found ways to utilize the power of Linux and the USB port to provide a very low power consumption system for controlling an RE system. We both had need for solar array tracking so the first device in this line of devices is a tracker that positions the array based on time. Mine has been running flawlessly for a couple weeks as a tracker. This device could also be used to control other devices based on input from other planned devices. It simply takes 24 VDC in and controls the output so you can drive it from the Slug and output different polarities on the output. With a bit of electrickery this could be used to control other devices like relays, etc based on complex algorithms that are processed by the Slug. In the future we hope to bring other devices like voltmeters and ammeters that also interface with the Slug to provide input on a system's performance. Since it is network ready you could control it from anywhere you can access the network it is on. Low enough power that it can be powered over the network cable with no problem.


Well, thats an update on what I have been doing since I quit editing the board. It was a good vacation from that duty but with winter here I may get back into helping on the board, depending on how DanB feels about that.


Anyway, a BIG Thanks to all who were involved in this project and I apologize if I missed thanking anyone.


Cheers.


TomW

« Last Edit: November 20, 2006, 07:05:12 PM by (unknown) »

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Re: Update...
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 01:03:26 PM »
Good Job Tom and everyone that helped
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Re: Update...
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 02:47:50 PM »
Sounds like the making of a Cecil B. DeMill movie.

Cast of thousands, cost of $$, and years in the making (as they used to be advertized).

Looks nice Tom. Sounds like a struggle, but it looks worth the effort.

Congrats on completion.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2006, 02:47:50 PM by stephent »

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Re: Update...
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 03:38:08 PM »
Welcome back Tom

 You got a nice windfarm going there.


 I can fully understand the 3yr process.I need to take a break also and just build.

 V......:>/

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Re: Update...
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 04:26:59 PM »
Looks great, You've got them up and running, congratulations to all involved, and welcome back.  I'm not sure how I'd feel about hanging around up there 60 feet in the air putting a heavy mill in place.  Rich
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Re: Update...
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 06:06:18 PM »
congratulations Tom!


happy you finally got some company for the 2 meter unit up there.  maybe the exhaust from the 10 foot Danbuilt will encourage that other unit not to be so lazy  ;)


a project well worth the time and effort.


looks SWEET!


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Re: Update...
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 07:03:23 PM »
Way to go, that looks just great up in the air,

Nothing better than great friends and family

Spend alot of time looking up I'll bet :-)

Kevin
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Re: Update...
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 07:33:50 PM »
Looks great Tom! Welcome back. Quick question, didn't notice but how did you anchor the stub unit once raised(bet it was a bear to raise)? Gary D.
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Re: Update...
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 08:31:57 PM »
  Nice goin' Tom....was wondering where you

took off to. Nice to hear from you again.

  What's the average windspeed on the 60 footer?

         ( :>) Norm.
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Re: Update...
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2006, 07:41:32 AM »
Hello Tom;

   Very Nice catwalk, will make life easier during maintence :--)

Not trying to get too far off the post but could you be more specific about the linux part?


I am currently running several versions everything from Mandrake7.2 servers up to Mustang live .

I am very interested in the USB controlling portion.


If this is and income then I'll back off .


Great Work!!!


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Re: Update...
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2006, 10:05:14 PM »
Nothing done last summer beat hanging out on a tower until 10pm on a warm summer night! Must be able to see 70 miles off to the west from up there, watching the storms march south and that 1st sunset... to he both of you here is a BIG thank you!! The "OK to climb" is better news than the mill flying - way to bring it all home!


Day one; oops left tape measure up there



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Re: Update...
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2006, 08:02:51 AM »
Gary;


The stub unit is a push up pole that I winch up after the head and blades are assembled on the lowered stub. It is just tube in tube construction with the outer tube secured at the apex of the tower and a set of braces at the ;lower end of the tube to the legs. Seems to be pretty stiff / solid.


Once the push up center mast is extended all the way the inner tube is secured by 2 T handle "set" bolts that pinch it off to one side of the outer tube, as well as a clip that secures it from dropping at the bottom of both tubes. It was designed to accept a cross pin that passes thru both tubes but the pin would not go past the cable inside the tube. Still looking at ways to utilize that cross pin. Lifting was very easy. There is a half link of chain welded to both the inner and outer tubes, I just get the head setup, short the leads so it can't turn then crank it up with a 1500# boat winch that was attached near the top. once fully extended I tighten the set bolts and clip the two tubes together at the chain links.


Sorry for the delay in responding, but between the holiday and the death of a close family friend it has been crazy here.


Cheers.


TomW

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Re: Update...
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2006, 08:50:28 AM »
Bruce;


No problem on the Linux question.


Here is the nutshell of the stuff ibedonc and I are doing:


We use a Debian distribution for the ARM processor. Debian just makes life easier when upgrading and adding packages.


It is mostly Don doing the "doing" I am mostly the tester and idea guy and if it can survive my abuse then it is probably an idiot proof design.


Both of us have had need of methods of monitoring and controlling our RE systems. Both of us are sold on Linux systems. The use of the USB port for the devices we are developing is a natural. Most computers seem to come with a USB port and very few seem to have the old time standard serial and printer ports. Our vision is a fully integrated monitoring and control system based on Linux and embedded systems such as the Linksys NSLU2 "Slug". The Slug is perfect for RE systems as it consumes only a few watts of power [<10] each one can control or monitor 256 devices connected to the USB port plus it is network ready and can have huge data storage attached. It should allow users to define complex algorithms for controlling their system. It will allow monitoring and control over a network, including the global internet through a web interface.


We expect it to be a very powerful tool set based on the open source model that provides the ability to customize the software to meet your needs.


By using the USB port we create the ability for any modern computer system to use the hardware, you simply need software for your system. This keeps the hardware useful to almost anyone.


This project will also create tools that could be used in many other applications. Anywhere logging, control and monitoring is needed.


Cheers.


TomW

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