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Hilltopgrange

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Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« on: May 01, 2007, 01:43:36 AM »
Hi all

         This is my first entry in my diary I hope you all find it of some interest.


Today's project was to install a little 30ft Aluminium tower that was recently given to me by a friend of a friend. The chap who owned it was a radio ham and had his antenna mounted on it. Unfortunately he is now a "silent key "(died) and although I am / was also a radio ham I prefer to play with turbines these days, much more fun. Funny but all my hobbies seem to involve putting large lumps of metal in the air although antennae are no where near as much fun.





The tower is very light weight and is bolted together rather like a large Meccano set, I wonder can you still Meccano or am I just showing my age?. Fortunately the tower arrived in 3 x 10 ft sections that simply bolted together. I was able to lift the whole 30 ft tower on my own with ease so I wouldn't like to put a large turbine on it lol! A very neat ladder is incorporated into the design that makes it real easy to climb. My plan was to install my little Future Energy turbine on it to run lights for the garden, poly tunnel and out houses etc it will be a stand alone system, total height to turbine is 40ft. The trees in the back ground are getting lopped to about half their height very soon.


My main turbine for the house at the moment is a 10ft 48v Hugh Piggott type machine where as the F.E. turbine is only 24v. The F.E. turbine was made redundant when I upgraded to 48v a few months ago, so rather than let it lay idle I thought I would put it back to work.


 Details of Future Energy products and specs can be found here


http://www.futurenergy.co.uk/products.html


I only purchased the PMG and blades from them(not cheap for a toy) the yaw and furling system I use is a modified version of Hugh's plans with a 5 inch offset and 4 ft tail it works very well. I used this machine for a couple of years and it has proved itself be reliable but somewhat limited in output. They rate these at 1KW! I would rate it at more like 500w or less although I have seen 1kw in a storm, but I since adjusted it to be fully furled at 750w. I get plenty of wind here as I am located on high ground in Northern Ireland U.K. This little machine will put out 300 - 500w all day long with favourable winds but low wind performance isn't so good. I intend to install my old 24v battery bank of 6 x 700 AH lorry batteries and 24v inverters etc that I used before the 48v upgrade, I will put all this into the shed beside the tower. We used to keep goats and this was their house. I know the lorry batteries are not ideal, but as it is only for garden lights it will have to do for now or at least until I can find another electric forklift to butcher! The remains of the last one is still outside my workshop and I am still find uses for parts from it.


The base plate / hinge for the tower was made from ½ plate 2ft sq welded to 4 x 5ft lengths 2in box section driven full length into the ground, seems very firm but time will tell. I only have 3 temporary rope guys in the pix but these will be changed tomorrow for at least 6 wire rope guys. Unfortunately the pix of the tower being raised didn't work out but it all went very smoothly. My approach to raising the tower is slightly different to the norm as I didn't bother with a gin pole etc I just lift it with my old trusty JCB, it is 37 years old and still going, although only just lol (it is a story all on its own!)


So that's what I got up to today, it was a glorious day here about 20c with blue skys and a big warm yellow thing in the sky! Can't remember what you call it!


Almost time for the next project!


Russell




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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 08:12:11 PM »
nice..

whats your location?

like that old stone house..
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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 12:44:29 AM »
Nice work. The Future energy machine does seem to be nice. At least the ratings are believable , with 6ft rotor and an iron cored alternator I suspect there is not much out below 10 mph, but they are close to the mark.


Even with the lower tsr it is probably stalling somewhat. It looks as though the alternator would well suit a 3 blade 8ft rotor but I am not sure what load the shaft can stand.


500W from a 6ft machine is a respectable performance.


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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 02:53:30 AM »
Russell,


You did the right thing downrating your turbine, there's a report on the web dated sept. 2006, from the Institute of Engineering and Technology, that they have burnt out 3 of the Futureenergy alternators trying to run them at 1Kw. They say 800w is more like the right rating.


I can't give you a link to the report but if you google "permanent magnet alternator future energy" it should come out near the top. It's a reply to somebody who is looking to buy a PMA.

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 04:43:58 PM »
Hi Hiker

         I am located in County Down Northern Ireland U.K. The main house is over 400 years old and was built with local field stone Granite. My worshop to right in the pic is even older it was originally a typical Irish thatched cottage but that was a long long time ago. I purchased it in 2000, but it was a sorry sight as it had been abandoned in the early 60s. I have spent the last 7 years restoring it but have a long way to go yet! Thanks for the comment.


Russell

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 05:00:10 PM »
Hi Flux

        Thanks for the response, I have a spare 8ft set of 3 plastic blades I might try on it if I need a bit more from it. I would share your concerns on the shaft and bearings being up to the extra load if driven direct, it wouldn't be very difficult to drive it 1:1 indirectly with a good sized bearing and shaft. Not sure it would be worth the effort though. Thanks again


Russell

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2007, 05:17:10 PM »
Hi CG

     I had a burn out with one of these early on so ever since I shut her down in a gale rather than risk it. They are a nice neat PMG at reasonable price in comparison to some others on the market I suppose! I wonder will they ever build a bigger unit? The company are very nice to work with they replaced the burnt unit and replied to emails etc, they even allowed me to open the unit to inspect the damage! not many companies would do that so top mars for service lol. They claim to make them in the UK, however the box the pmg came in had Chinese labels in it. I have another unit that looks almost identical, it is a 36v hub motor for an electric bike. I must try and get time to test it on lathe. That will be another project!!


Many thanks for the reply


Russell

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2007, 07:28:38 PM »


I know the lorry batteries are not ideal, but as it is only for garden lights it will have to do for now or at least until I can find another electric forklift to butcher! The remains of the last one is still outside my workshop and I am still find uses for parts from it.


Hmm, are you by any chance not using the motor controller? :-D


BTH

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2007, 06:52:05 AM »
Way OT.  The Camper, a 'Sprite' from the mid-70s?  They sent some to the US.

I loved mine, one step smaller, best thought out design and construction I ever saw.

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 03:02:46 PM »
Hi ghurd I think it is 73 the chassis plate is a bit worn. I aquired it from a friend to use as a temp office for a garden centre we planned to open, but due to bad health it has ended up as another pile of junk that I cant part with lol. I am like a magnet for old stuff from turnip pulpers to VW buses just cant say no!


Russell

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 03:16:58 PM »
Hi BTH

      I still have all of the forklift although it is in bits lol is it the "BRAIN" black box or the panel of contactors etc? I would have no use for the brain so if you want it its yours for the postage cost. I want to hang on to the contactors etc some very nice giant diodes that will be useful. The fork truck was a Cat 2 tonnes 72v the only fault the truck had was a burnt out power steering motor, a real pity as it was a large PM Motor, even the magnets were scrap! are you in the UK ? just let me know if you want it my email is hilltopgrange at tesco dot net just fix the obvious


Russell

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 08:09:06 PM »


Hi BTH

      I still have all of the forklift although it is in bits lol is it the "BRAIN" black box or the panel of contactors etc? I would have no use for the brain so if you want it its yours for the postage cost. I want to hang on to the contactors etc some very nice giant diodes that will be useful. The fork truck was a Cat 2 tonnes 72v the only fault the truck had was a burnt out power steering motor, a real pity as it was a large PM Motor, even the magnets were scrap! are you in the UK ? just let me know if you want it my email is hilltopgrange at tesco dot net just fix the obvious



I'm in Australia, but I'll send you an e-mail tonight.


BTH

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2007, 03:09:03 AM »
Hello Russell,


I wanted to thank you for all the useful information on your waste oil heater.


Your home is beautiful and so is that pond, has it been there as long as the home.


I havent been geting much time at the computer lately. It was a very informative article.


Funny about the oil guy ;-}


Thanks again!


Lonnie

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Re: Fun in the sun in Ballyroney
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2007, 08:02:52 PM »
Hi Lonnie

         Thanks for the nice comments and im glad to be able to help with the burner info.

         The pond is only 2 years old, it was the simple solution to a part of the field that was always wet plus we had 18 ducks at the time! note I said had Mr Fox took care of the ducks, chickens and peacocks all in one go! we have since got a Zeuse to deter the foxes and it seems to have worked, maybe a bit to well as he seems to deter visitors as well lol.





He is a big softie and shares his dinner with the cats! but he weighs in at about 14 stone or about 200lbs so he is no lightwieght and eats more than the whole family!


If I can help further with the burner just let me know.


Regards Russell

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