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chihuahuas

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3600 rpm genset on 2000 rpms.
« on: January 02, 2010, 12:02:23 AM »
Project is to run lamps on 240 side of genset slowed to 2000 rpms.


-Genset= troy-bilt 3440 watt 6.7 hp.

-diagram on excite circuit


Genset like to run slower and the lights work good and the fuel savings are great.


Here is a video showing the set in action.

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/Gotdogs/?action=view&current=VID00069-1.flv


fuel burn 1.5 hours on 36ozs.  6 hours per gallon unconfirmed.  I will test it further.

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Re: 3600 rpm genset on 2000 rpms.
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 09:59:57 AM »
Hi


The frequency will be out and is there still enough cooling, also is there any AVR unit.  I have a 2 KW inverter generator I use with my camper with what is called an intelegent throttle, what that means is the engine only runs fast enough to produce enough power for the load, but it is a DC generator feeding the inverter and the cooling is designed to cope with the wide range of engine revs.


Brian.

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Re: 3600 rpm genset on 2000 rpms.
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 11:04:58 AM »
Did you by any chance see what the kill-o-watt was saying for frequency? If your rpms are 2000, then the gen should have been at about 33-34 hertz. Noticed that the flourescents were not wanting to run, or run dimly at that freq. Inductive ballasts are set for about the right current at 60hz into the tubes, and aren't going to put enough current into them at 33 hertz to run them. Incandescent bulbs don't care, I've run them on everything from DC to 400 hertz. Now 139 volts is a tad high and your bulbs won't last long at that voltage. Your generator is what's called "self excited".

You could put a variable rheostat in one of the leads from the field, and cut the excitation down a bit to get your voltage down around 120 volts. I suspect the regulation on the set is going to be all wacky also, and you'll be adjusting the excitation every time you change loads.Universal tool motors will run at this freq but at about half speed. Do not attempt to run induction motors though, they'll overload and burn out. Only really useful for lights, and resistance loads. Electronic things won't like it too well either. Likely you'll have to derate the generator, the voltage will probably collapse before you get much over 1kw. Your engine is only good for a fraction of it's HP rating idling along at 2000rpm, and may be the limiting factor.


Perry

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Re: 3600 rpm genset on 2000 rpms.
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 09:47:38 PM »
Fuel burn rate is 6.2 hours per gallon with a 400 watt load.


(fuel burn rate at 3600 rpms on a 1500 watt heater 12 oz 20 minutes.


14 oz ran 41 minutes.


That's 0.40 usd an hour.





Lamps used are incandescent and high speed switching screw in florescent.




Video link on fuel rate test


http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/Gotdogs/?action=view&current=VID00076-1.flv
« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 09:47:38 PM by chihuahuas »

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Re: 3600 rpm genset on 2000 rpms.
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 08:33:26 PM »
New Video turned down the rpms and hooked a closed exhaust loop

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/Gotdogs/?action=view&current=VID00102-1.flv
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 08:33:26 PM by chihuahuas »